IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN ask me questions and I'll answer them and ask you one back! TOGETHER WE WILL PING PONG QUESTIONS as i procrastinate on finishing commissions
What is C going to do if he comes to volleyball world? Attend class? Clubs? Also what will he do in the future? We already know Silver is on Division 1 pro team and Gold owns an onigiri shop, so I need to know about the tinies.
ALL THE THINGS. Even if he somehow manages to become god, he's gonna use all that power to make sure his minions get their happy endings and then immediately retire in like, 24 hours.
But specifically for twinworld, he plans on going to school just to properly graduate and get that under his belt, but he absolutely is not going to be still. He'll try lots of clubs, probably put together another gang, and just by virtue of not being able to stay still, he'll use his Supreme Leader persona to make a public image for himself and generally try to stick his hands in so many pots.
BUT ALSO
HE IS SUPER super keen volunteering at an orphanage and at some point he will have an entire orphanage full of kids wearing his signature scarves!! Otherwise I was telling Ari he'd definitely duck in to help B and Gold at the onigiri shop whenever one of them needs a break/it gets busy, and would face time Silver every night if he's away on games and if he doesn't pick up he will SOMEHOW find away to the city and kick down the team's locker room to find him
Overall he plans on doing a lot of things, but it'll be a while before he can settle down and focus on just One thing since basically all he knows is showmanship aT this point.
REVERSE, WHAT DOES SILVER WANT OUT OF TWIN AND TINIES FUTURE?
Plan number one when they get back to twin world will be hunting for a new place. He was talking with Gold and he really wants the tinies to feel like it's their place too, not that they're just visitors at the twin's place. So, currently the plan is to move further a little further from school, so they can trade off for a bigger place. And to let the tinies lead in picking it so they can feel it's their place too. May have to phrase it as ~~~ooooh we're just SO BUSY with volleyball to look, wont you boys help us narrow it down~~~ so that tinies don't catch on to what they're doing (the tinies will still catch on to what they're doing).
He wants the tinies to be able to find things they enjoy doing whether it's club or volunteering or even just general mischief. He's worried about the smalls (B especially) feeling like they don't have a purpose in the twins world and while he'd selfishly be happy with them hanging with him and Gold 24/7, he knows there'll probably be some bees about "taking up too much of [their] time". Luckily Gold and Silver weren't lying about only really hanging with each other outside of volleyball so he is confident the tinies will see for themselves YOU ARE NOT STEALING OUR TIME, WE DON'T GIVE OUR TIME TO OTHER PEOPLE.
Order of business the third will eventually....once the tinies are settled in and bees are calmer.....taking them to meet Granny. The boys (Silver especially) are indeed huge grandma's boys.
Silver's plan always has and always will be to go pro at volleyball (even before the manga confirmed it recently). Ball is literally his life and the manga makes a huge point of this and a huge point of ball being way more LIFE to Atsumu than it is to Osamu. Whereas before he wouldn't be suuuuuper interested in getting a manager to handle things like brand deals or commercials or interviews or what not, he will definitely do some in the future to further support the boys though. His schedule is going to be super fucked considering training/away matches/fan events/commercial work/etc but HE WILL FIND A WAY!
Also I have no doubt he will live in eternal fear of Bokuto and C meeting. Because with their energy and ability to harrass Atsumu combined.... I have no doubt Bokuto and Hinata would like C.
Whenever he is home he'll whine about being made to help out (but will probably still help out at the onigiri shop just so he can have more time with twin and smalls). Maximize all his time with them!
I really doubt we'll ever get a flashback to the conversation that must have happened with Atsumu and Osamu when Osamu told Atsumu he wasn't going to pursue volleyball after highschool/college. But that must've been a hard one and it will inevitably BE a hard one. Thank goodness for boys being there to force them to make up faster.
So basically, in conclusion, he wants their home to become the twins home and he wants to find a way to balance a huge work load with making sure he has enough time for the boys.
What's up next on C's plan to become God? Who is next on his list to recruit? How is he going to feel about the tracker plan?
the great thing is silver being crazy busy fits perfectly with c who wouldn't know how to function without forming convoluted ways to spend time with him while doing his own long list of business!!
anyway RE THE TRACKER PLAN: he's honestly a-okay with it...like 90%. Paranoid stalker he is, he also wants to know where silver, B, and gold are at any given point. FOR HIMSELF HOWEVER...........there may be one or more times he attaches it to a furby and just sends it off in order for him to get some private stuff done. WE'LL SEE.
As for becoming god, HE IS STILL ON TRACK WITH IT. Current plans are to eventually talk to Intensity to bounce around some ideas of Starting Shit, and do some more general minion solidarity bonding. I was crazy busy ooc this season but I think I'll make a sleepover post for all his gang eventually, probably sometime in January. RECRUITMENT WISE, he has no hard goals, and just got himself another HSS!!! He does want to grab some more SensitIVs tho and get his tendrils more into Avante and Taisho. Ultimately his goal will be to have at least one or two people on every team. He's almost there!!
If Silver were not full of PR bees, what is something he'd pull in imeeji he'd otherwise try to keep a lid on?
Mmmmmmm.....in general he'd probably be a little more honest? Like, if he were on a team with a better reputation or if he somehow magically didn't care about Wc's reputation or if having to worry about randos forming a blood feud with him over a small insult, he'd probably be a little more honest? Or not necessarily honest, but a little more "himself". By which I mean he'd be a little more catty. There'd be more backhanded compliments or calling shit out and in general having hard opinions as well as unpopular opinions. He probably wouldn't do NEARLY as many lives either, since he personally doesn't care about points and buying shit beyond having a nest egg for replacing eyes/buying replacement limbs/etc. He would focus on things he ACTUALLY CARES ABOUT like practice and the boys. Just say all the shit he wants to say and not worry if people like him or not for it.
Talk to me about C and trust. Who does he trust least? What are trust makers and breakers? How hard is it to earn and how easy is it to lose? Etc etc.
C both trusts his friends/twins and tinies immensely and simultaneously trusts no one completely but himself! Like logically, he knows he can trust B, Silver, and Gold for more intimate stuff and they'd never betray him, and to the lesser extent, most of the people he's recruited for his gang are also on varying tiers of this level (people like Prim and Duality especially, who have literally died for him). So he knows he can trust them, and WILL trust in them in the end.
IF.................he can manipulate the situation.
Even with as much as he likes them all, he's a control freak, and the reason he thinks he *can* trust people is the faith in himself to tip things in his favor. Even with Silver, both consciously and subconsciously he does things to try and maintain a certain level of trust, even when he does bullshit. He also knows B and the twins on set on 'making him happy' so he doesn't actually trust them to not meddle in his plans, but will play along enough to satisfy them. They're his absolute closest CR but he still has this teeny tiny door closed off in a closet of vulnerability. He also thinks he's mentally prepared to handle it if Silver finds someone better, and even told B he'd be happy if Silver ever decided to move on. CONCEAL DON'T FEEEEEEL
He also lowkeys expects to be betrayed by someone like.........all the time, so it's very, VERY hard for him to hold a grudge due to Game decisions, and he still rather someone hit him/AlcheMe rather than dealing with other drama.
So despite how far he's come, he still has the mentality of "Ultimately it'll come down to me" which is why he's still on his Godhood train, wanting to ensure everything goes he is way no matter what.
For the Top People he'd trust, it's B, Silver, Gold, Duality, Intensity, and then juuust below them probably like Prim, Hurricane, maybe Mars. They're lower because they have so many connections around that he generally expects to be thrown under the bus. But a REAL betrayal from any of these people would send hims spiraling reeeeal bad.
FOR TRUSTING THE LEAST basically any murderer, a bunch of the rowdy people he considers not malicious but stupid to the point of being a danger, Maki for a variety of too many reasons, FUKKIN GOD the list goes on
Top three teams Silver would go to if he did Transfer?
Despite how C acts, one thing C hates more than anything is illogical nonsense. And she is that! She makes no sense, but her actions to hurt him are PINPOINT DELIBERATE and it drives him wild. Why is this idiot gaining momentum! HOW IS THIS DELUSIONAL DANGER ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO EXIST. Spoilers and such but with the exception of one person, the people C tries to get killed in canon are all people he dubs as unnecessary or dangers to the overall group. AND SHE VERY MUCH FITS THIS MOLD
He is fine playing along with her, and in fact started doing so in hopes that he could win her over and ease her off of her crazy toward his important people BUT THAT BACKFIRED SPECTACULARLY and now he's just doing it out of pure spite!! He knows the best thing to do would be just to ignore her but that also means she wins so no??? That said, sometimes he is just Done and will about face and wander off instead of bantering so he can get his thoughts straight. It has not occurred to him that this is probably the best course of action all the time. No, must fight fire with fire.
Overall tho she is one of the few people he would actually set out to kill permanently if he could but knows that wouldn't be Best overall so he's going to settle for biding his time, becoming god, and then banishing her to hell where she can chase after Azzy's ass like a cartoon skunk. THAT SAID in the meantime he is still fine putting up a front and is actually a okay working along side her, just while screaming deeply, silently, inside his gut.
FUN FACT: God didn't really give a shit about C, or take him seriously, until Asmodeus gave her a mission technically concerning him—take that as you will. The fact that he assigned her such a thing actually set off some alarms and drove her to putting Full Attention on making C suffer because he's apparently a threat after all.
...that said, even if Azzy hadn't given her the directive she would still come to hate C because SCREW THIS GUY WHO THINKS HE CAN TRY TO BECOME GOD WHEN I AM GOD AND RIGHT! HERE! Not to mention she's got corruptions maxing out her desperation and deriving her a sense of morality, so yeah, this woulda happened no matter what. After all, C is threatening her ideal reality! With her memories came the realization that she might NOT be god, but she is still riding her delusions out because it's the life she really wants. AND C IS RUINING IT!
So it crossed from "this is my assignment" to "I'm taking this personally he is in the way of my happiness"
Her ~dream~, her fantasy, is seeing C on his knees, begging for her to leave him and his friends alone; she makes a broadcast where he announces the disbandment of his organization... then allows himself to be executed on camera.
But, weird, people are starting to be MEAN to her, what's up with that?? Why don't they SEE that this C is a disappointment, a scam, a FAKE? Instead they are dismissing HER and treating her UNKINDLY? Must be C's fault. He must have spread propaganda, he must have already tainted their minds. He's ruining her dreams, she should have never left, she should have never let him get this far, etc, etc...
tho like I said in plurk, pre-corruption/amnesiac God could have come to like C and taken on the "goddy" title like a weird badge of pride while jokingly saying she'd let him "inherit" the title of God after she went back to her home world, and that is still really funny to think about.
TELL ME ABOUT KHARG > SILENCE, or C > SILENCE, or whichever I'll just ask about the other next.
GAWD DROPPING KHARG WAS HARD CUZ I REALLY LIKED SILENCE AND KHARG. Kharg is half deimos/demons, but in his world deimos are literally monster people that evolved from feral monsters. Deimos are still like, super crazy fight happy and would eat people, but they also have their own civilizations! His mom ran off with a ~handsome dragon king~ and then they were both hunted down by the other deimos. Long story short they were separated, and his (fraternal) twin brother was raised by his dad, and Kharg stayed with his mom and grew up as human royalty!! But despite looking the most human he has the more aggressive instincts and also that one time he tried to genocide a city handwave handwave
ANYWAY, he really respects/respected silence? Despite being deadset on his mission, Kharg takes units/teams very seriously! He had one after all! And no matter what he didn't want to cause too much trouble for FiN. Meanwhile here's Silence that has like, 3 people in her?? He vaguely reminded her of his brother's teammate (a literal living doll named Bebedora) but IT'S SILENCE, SHE'S GOOD, NOT A HARBINGER OF THE ABYSS. hahhhahaa--
Anyway, he really appreciates her giving him a chance and ALSO felt like he could get along fine with Song and Symphony too? Sometimes, your teammate has multi personalities, its fine!! He really wanted to help her and not disappoint her.
THEN SHE INSISTS SHE'S NOT HUMAN. And it's a huge blow to his own facade, as deep down, he kind of knew, and was okay with it, but thought she was the same as him in thinking 'it's okay to just pretend we aren't.' But she isn't pretending and that's hard and it hurts. The thing with Kharg is, despite all his bluster, he'll try to kill someone like, once, and then decide they're besties. A deimos tries to push him over a cliff and he rolls out the way and is like "well if you REALLY wanted to kill me, you would have succeeded." "no i was really trying to kill you??" "Mmm no i decided okay lets go"
SO LIKE. HE DOESN'T ACTUALLY HATE *ALL* OF THEM. He just feels like he's Supposed to. So having his unitmates call him out on it is like oh no, but my reasoning!! If he comes back he'll be far more chill just, still with dragon brain telling him to stab, but stab more politely and with less racism maybe.
C MEANWHILE STILL NEEDS TO TOUCH BASE WITH HER, I SUCK. HE ALSO NEEDS TO STOP LYING. But he does genuinely appreciate her unwavering support, but that same support really puts him in Supreme Leader mode, and he feels like he needs to be infallible and strong in front of people like her. I can't remember if he's straight up said he's dead (I THINK HE DID? I need to go reread the ballpit) but he feels like he needs to get a hold on showing that vulnerability to so many people. But on the flip side, he does also want to support her too, and that's hard when you're a Lying Mcliar face. Overall tho he adores Silence, A+ minion needs to stop lying to her cuz she's crazy gullible.
MAN I DON'T EVEN KNOW because he's not one to really settle into routine, even though he can when he has to.
That said, he wakes up, makes an elaborate breakfast for everyone, but has like, dumbass pranks in some (like an egg with a fake tiny frog in it or jam made from wasabi or some shit) but it's really tasty and he laughs when people bite in and get a surprise!!
Then he goes to harass all his subordinates one by one, hanging out with them and doing something with each of them, whether it's lettin ghtem do his hair, outfit swapping, playing around, or just talking.
THEN he naps. Probably alone somewhere, with his hammock set up in a nice shady area. Recharge time!
BACK TO HARASSING PEOPLE. Maybe puts on a Live or goes to do a particularly long hang out with closer friends like Alcheme or HSS. Then he disappears for a few hours for Personal Stuff--studying up on lore in the library or crafting theories or plans in his room for a minute. If this is twin good end au maybe this point he'd go study for a bit or brush up on an act for his public image.
Then dinner time!! He'd go eat with everyone else, still joking around, trying to make things fun.
Nighttime would be winding down with B or Gold and Silver, wouldn't say no to staying over with any of them or group sleepover.
He's a not-so-simple boy with simple needs. As long as it's a it's not boring and his friends aren't hurt, he's having a good time.
THIS WAS HARD BECAUSE C LOVES EVERY ALCHEME POWER aside from megido. They fit his type SO WELL and he's very versatile with them, so most of them he wouldn't trade for anything. It took him a while to warm to to Foresight since he initially saw it as a Cheat and he hates cheating!!! BUT he's come around to it since he's realized he can just, reverse a fucking death if he needs to. IT'S NOT CHEATING IF A LEGITIMATE MOVE, I GUESS.
But if he had to pick 6 other powers, he'd pick: -Wild City's Frog Materia -Echo from Taisho for voice mimicry -Alternatively animal power from WC and just rip a magpie's ability for voice mimicry -FiN's Gadgeteer -Sensitiv's Feel so Numb/never feel pain -Who killed cock robin/disguise ability
These are all abilities that either aid him defensively or will keep people away, and that's how his mind works strategy wise. EVEN FIN, HE WOULD NOT HESITATE TO MELD SOMEONE'S SHOES TO THE GROUND and then run away.
I did not consider any of the Guest Units but I don't remember them but most don't really suit him anyway.
GAWD C on Maki is just a whirlwind. SUMMARY FIRST THEN A BREAKDOWN STARTING FROM THE BEGINNING (or what I can remember) to present:
Summary version is he's not QUITE as upset and resentful toward her as he was like, directly after their last talk since he's convinced himself it really Isn't Worth It and at least she's attempting to be considerate so!! He's perfectly fine being civil at her and even helping her out if need be but in general doesn't have much investment in her right now, especially since he's hyper focused on BECOME GOD, DESTROY GOD right now.
LONGER VERSION
It is bizarre where C is right now because he actually liked Maki a whole lot during their first few months, to the point he was a little jealous of her being with A/Joker. Why be their friend when I'm clearly the superior friend??? WOW!!! He in general still did not mind hanging with her or attempting to give her (sometimes awful) advice tho, and while he did think she's a little dumb, like, he thinks many people are dumb so in general he was overall content?
But one thing Maki never managed to notice is he very tightlipped with his personal life and likes to control what is or isn't broadcasted to the population, and over time it really started to weigh on C, especially as darker and heavier topics begin to be exposed. GRANTED, HE COULD HAVE LIKE, TOLD HER THIS LIKE A NORMAL PERSON but are dangans normal or easy? of course not. There's also the point of him trying really hard to maintain a persona of power in Imeeji and he does lean in to his asshole acting, and he didn't want people pitying him just because he's trapped in a murder game. Broadcasted memories made this hard!!
THINGS REACHED THEIR PEAK i thiiink it was the case 5 memory where C just goes YEP, TOTALLY ME, YOU FOOL, I AM THE ONE WHO DID IT. Because he's gotta protect his rep!! But despite having no fucking idea what was happening, he went along with it mostly out of spite, since that was the tipping point of Maki exposing his business in public. He did talk to X a bit more rationally later, but he was too upset to really pursue anything further.
I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS THAT SAME MEMORY OR ANOTHER MAKI SHOWED LIKE, RIGHT BEFORE BALLOON POPPING GAME. But whatever it was I remember C was also exasperated about that to the point of not helping B herd cats and just literally laying on his face as X tried to talk about canon stuff until they all fell to their deaths. IT'S JUST, A HILARIOUS CLUSTERFUCK IN HINDSIGHT. He was so done!!
ANYWAY i'm sure smaller things happened that i can't remember at the moment, including Maki talking to him again later also more rationally and then calling him out on his bullshit. WAIT I DO REMEMBER THAT, it also pissed C off because he's a fucking cat, and at that point rather Maki dislike him rather than think she can get under his skin (which she could). It also threw him off a bit because she had said she considered him one of the few people close/understanding of her situation since they're from the same place and have been here since the beginning. So after that point he just, sucked it up, and while still very flippant and teasing, he decided to just let things drop a bit and feel around how things would go with Maki because maybe they could work this out.
BUT THEN LIAR HELL HAPPENED and Maki killed herself which pissed C off to varying degrees. Partly because it sent B to a panic (as he was blaming himself) and partly because he was worried her interference could meddle with whatever Intensity and co were doing, and tried his best to advise against it. He'd made peace with her doing it and even asked Pink to look out for her if he could, but it cemented in his mind that Maki is too Unpredictable and will always act on her emotions first, even if she comes back later to talk settled down. That's proooobably the wedge that stopped C from trying to get too close from now on, and he decided she couldn't be trusted completely.
AND THEN AT SOME POINT after, C remembered his own death and then took more memories and remembered the entire scenario that went down in the hanger, and his entire plan for case 5. He suspected he was dead, and B had too (B pointed out ICly that he thought the robot in maki's memory sounded Off and unlike C, which is hilarious ooc because I hadn't told Ari about any of Kaito's old fashioned mannerisms, B just managed to pick them up), but overall it was a Lot to take in, as well as confirming some suspicions from earlier memories that the entire game was set up and rigged.
but oops doesn't matter cuz he's fucking mcdead.
Anyway lots of feelings were had, but fast forward to Maki's case 6 memory and he just could not muster the energy to care that she was so upset, especially since she didn't even acknowledge his death. This is also why he was more forthcoming with information; he's dead, whatever, throw her a bone so she stops bothering me! (even though he still didn't tell her a Lot) eta OH I ALSO REMEMBER HE WAS ANNOYED SHE TOLD SILENCE ABOUT IT like /stares into space stop telling my business!!
But her olive branch of taking her memories privately did suprise him, even if he thinks its A LITTLE TOO LATE. But he acknowledges regardless and Maki's moved firmly to "well meaning but stupid." He's decided to keep just being his persona around her, including the teasing even though it pisses her off. He wants to keep that distance between them and so far that's doing the trick!!
THAT MIGHT CHANGE WHO KNOWS but yeah he's back to being civil and chatting with her but otherwise any deeper investment in her has been stomped out at the moment. He'll watch memories if asked, but mostly out of curiosity to see if his theory was correct.
OVERALL Maki does still... want to be friends with C. She does genuinely think he is one of the people who can understand her best! And she thinks he is generally well-meaning, in that even his most stupid and vicious-seeming actions have some justification in his head, even if it's sometimes really convoluted and sometimes is based solely around his weird conviction that he can't possibly just be honest with people. It's rarely malicious. However, she does think C is spiteful and his concept of what helps people is off, and that even his well-meaning actions hurt people a lot, and that his plans are usually overly convoluted and reckless.
ALL THAT WOULD STILL BE WORKABLE since Maki obviously doesn't mind if her friends are spiteful/morally skewed/stupid/reckless, but the part she has the most trouble dealing with is that C appears... to get away with all of this. People who are important to Maki who have been upset with her to the point of cutting off friendships tolerate what she perceives as just as bad or worse actions from C with no consequences. And C himself appears (to her) to have no incentive to do any better. AND SHE HAS A LOT OF TROUBLE DEALING WITH THAT. Which means when C needles on that point (like pointing out that X had been on his side, or that King was his now, etc.) she gets perhaps disproportionally upset.
There are three events that contributed most to this:
1) The Trial 5 memory + C's reaction. In that memory, Maki is convinced that she accidentally killed X, is more agonized and heartbroken about it than anything else she had experienced before, and is so determined that C is responsible for everything and he needs to die that she's willing to lie at the trial and kill him at the cost of everyone else's lives as well. In addition to just... the aftermath of all those emotions, Maki was also reeling from the fact that she thought nothing else mattered so much that everyone should just die. All other character flaws aside, Maki is very determined, so the fact that she'd ever give up that way was a shock to her (and the memory didn't provide the context to why - the part where they thought they were the only people left alive in the universe). SO THAT'S THE EMOTIONAL STATE SHE WAS IN RIGHT AFTER TAKING IT. She was not in any state to rationally interrogate anything, so the fact that C immediately came up to her like "HAHA YOU FINALLY LEARNED THE TRUTH, YES, I AM THE MASTERMIND" triggered her instinctive "pull a knife on him" reaction.
So the fact X (at the time) and B (later on) reacted to this by being like "can you give C a break" really upset her, because it felt like... okay I guess my feelings here don't matter? It was a jerk move for him to gloat at me about having masterminded our killing game right after I took an extremely traumatic memory, but I guess I need to have sympathy for his weird liar complex more than he needs to have sympathy for me thinking he was responsible for me killing the man I loved and a lot of other deaths? Cool. Great. Good to know your priorities.
2) Liar Hell Lilith expedition. Maki thinks C judging her for that is extremely hypocritical, starting from the fact that... C himself was the very first person to suicide and go to Lilith, before they even knew what that meant. His team berserked and he was missing for a while while everyone had no idea where he was and he came back with his head stapled on. She does not feel like he has the high ground here.
She also (and this isn't limited to C, she has said it to others too) did not see any reason to believe that Intensity & co were on a mission that was any better thought out than hers - no one actually knew where they were or what they were doing - so she found "you'll just mess up their plans" to be deeply condescending. And after having learned what they were doing, she does not in fact think that "the angel is being held in Azzy's manor so let's storm Pythia's apartment... in case there's information there? without telling anyone what we are doing, and while half our party can't even remember what we're doing" is a less dumb plan than her killing herself to go to Lilith and retrieve them. So she doesn't really understand why all the people on the mission / people who have done other stupid things get passes while her reaction was somehow reckless and unreasonable.
3) Her live vs C's live. She was already kind of pissed off that claiming to be the mastermind of a killing game was apparently harmless pranks while her vague threat live was the most horrible thing half of Imeeji has ever seen, but now that C literally did a live to try to hire a hitman to kill her unitmate, Maki is just kind of... Throws arms in the air! Apparently he can just do whatever he wants!!! Even assuming his live wasn't being serious (she didn't actually see it so she doesn't have a good barometer of the seriousness of it)... that doesn't really matter since some people are going to react to it like it is, and there will be a community reaction and other people might do things like it, and all the same arguments people made to her about her live being bad even if she wasn't going to kill anyone. BUT APPARENTLY NO ONE CARES IF IT'S C. Great!! She loves it.
As far as memories go, it really was in their olive branch thread that Maki first realized C actually like... cared about memories and in fact was genuinely upset about her showing them publicly. Most previous conversations they've had had been more like "Why are you doing this, memories are stupid" "They're not stupid, in fact I'd like to talk to you about them sometime...?" "Haha no." So she assumed C just... thought they were stupid, and "C thinks this is stupid" is not a good reason for her to stop doing things. Hence the offer to stop / take them with him when she realized it was a real thing for him! Which also had somewhat to do with the fact that he's dead and that's rough, which she did try to acknowledge, but since he brushed it off she dropped it pretty quick.
The fact that she'd apparently been upsetting him by showing her memories this whole time without her noticing is also why she's not... as mad at him as she could be for not telling her he remembered what happened re: the chapter 5 murder. Though she's still a bit mad. See above, deeply traumatic, spent a couple months upset and confused and sure she'd killed the man she loved and also everyone, she would really have appreciated knowing that was not the case a bit sooner.
On that topic, Sabre is asking her why she's trying to be considerate of his feelings if he's not considerate of hers, and she is a bit like "you know, that's a good question." She's still not going to sway on the decision to not take memories publicly since that isn't actually a big deal for her and is making up for some past hurts, but she does kinda wonder if it will make any difference in their relationship since C seems pretty determined to be antagonistic to her at every opportunity.
What does C currently think is going on with their memories?
C IS PRETTY SURE HIS THEORY IS RIGHT, or close to it--ie there being an audience and this all being a show, but he has no idea of the extent of it! He's already been doubting if his talent was real (implied at the end of chapter 2, when Kirumi reveals she didn't remember her backstory til watching the motive video, and at that point Ouma begins to question his own, since that's what had motivated him to try and get the others to watch their own videos). So overall, he thinks they're in some kind of fucked up the Most Dangerous Game situation with some sicko audience, but he probably thinks it's more isolated than he imagined.
HE HAS, NO IDEA ABOUT THE SCOPE OF IT THOUGH and is already verging on the edge of an existential crisis, but Silver's been helpful distracting him from it and he's just /SHOVE THAT RIGHT DOWN IN THE TRASH FOR NOW.
He knows it doesn't matter now because he's super dead, and anything pass that point would just be to sate his curiosity. Knowing that his plan failed and X died is a bit of a bummer for him though, and he's just creating a never ending checklist of people to fish out of hell later.
LEVI - C continues to view him as a well meaning idiot, a dog on a chain that loves pets but also REALLY WANTS TO MAUL THE BURGLAR FOR YOU, PLEASE LET HIM MAUL. That said, he's never viewed Levi as malicious, just moreso 'leaps before he looks.' He's got a good heart and good intentions, and really does hope that he manages to squeeze in good with Azzy and get some usefulness out of him. He's also not entirely sure what is going on between him and Hiryuu but he hopes it works out for them, as he seems them both as excitable puppies.
KAGUYA - C WANTS TO GET TO KNOW KAGUYA BETTER as he has been slowburn working on getting Taisho on his side!!! Fox is part of his organization, and he likes Shu fine and he's slowly becoming more curious about Kaguya. Even while he was magic brainwashed he noticed she was surprisingly insightful and really just wants to talk to her more over all! Regards her as a generally sweet girl but not naive and seemingly proactive. Definitely will be jumping more.
LEVI- C is actually someone that Leviathan likes. HE DOESN'T... really understand his special brand of weird, and sometimes he finds it a little overwhelming. Like it's kind of terrifying when a reverse mermaid runs at you asking for a kiss or creepy stuffed animals with teeth start chattering at you. Or like C's everything. But while he doesn't always understand him he respects him, which is something from Levi. He thinks that C is more insightful and clever than what he projects and was actually grateful that time they had a chat under his hat after throwing up on the floor...
While he will forever put his master and Wednesday first and foremost, it's not like he's against being team C and he supports him.
YUUKI - She likes him! She thinks there is more to him than meets the eye and that while he has this silly trickster persona it's kind of... a front to a certain extent. While he might be a natural gremlin she does believe he sort of hides behind that to protect or hide either his feelings or motivations to an extent. When he asked about the Kohime incident she was protective of her unit because of the already complicated relationship between those units and a bit wary. Putting that aside she doesn't think he means anything bad toward the unit though. And she'll support his God ambitions! She thinks that is harmless and also it spites God which makes that even better because she'd like to bury her. He is a good kid and she worries a little that he may... get himself in way over his head-- which she thinks may already be evident with what happened to Eclipse. But she would like to help support him and would like to help keep him safe...r from God.
C LOVES Q A LOT. She's not quite up there with B and N but she's quickly climbing; she's probably A level at the moment, which is still pretty fucking high despite how he acts around A.
But overall her sassiness and petty snipes are really refreshing to him, and he likes having someone on the team who he can tease and will be teased back without hurting their feelings. B is his number one always, but he knows B does have some triggers and he can't really go all out with him sometimes. But with Q he will be merciless and expects to be stomped on in return. FRIENDSHIP.
She also gets bonus points for being cozy with the twins, and totally accepts her as their play-sister. He has not prodded much about her feelings about Pink, moreso out of respect for Pink rather than Q, but he's becoming increasingly curious because it's obviously Complicated, but do they want to kiss??? Possibly with Cammelia?? Let C help ur love life Q.
He's not quite at the point where he'd confide in her with Deeper Shit but tbh I could see it happening in the future.
-LOEV PINK -PROBABLY ONE OF HIS MOST FAVORITE CASUAL BUDDIES?? I can totally see C just banging on Peps door so he can chill in Pink's room and talk about bullshit -They are very Same Hat but C recognizes Pink is probably even MORE locked down than he is, and honestly he kinda respects it -He also respects Pink for not taking shit from him, which boosts his trust factor, and why he usually will say yes to any favors for Pink without hesitation -He is mostly LoL about Pink's relationship with Q and watches from the sidelines as they kind of Wile E. Coyote each other. -He did not say it outright, but if not for his love of Silver, he'd absolutely be friends with benefits with Pink if he wanted it. DUDE IS CUTE -Like mentioned above about him being locked down, he does want to get closer to pink and needle at him more, but he both likes and relates to him too much to go in swinging with a pick axe like he'd do with most people, BUT ONE DAY, HE MIGHT JUST KICK DOWN A DOOR AND TRY
DID AT ONE POINT HAVE SOME KINDA SMALL NOT!CRUSH WHATEVER THING ON C
I say 'at one point' but it's only still not a thing because he doesn't enjoy competing with others when he thinks he won't get what he wants and Q showing up shook him up real bad so his estimation of his ranking with C is like 'middle of the pack', below Q (unitmate) in importance, not worth the risk of being that vulnerable.
He is at risk of saying something sometimes due to impulse but it really depends what's happening.
YOU SAID IT OUTRIGHT C, YOU DID TELL HIM TO HIS FACE 'IF NOT FOR BOYFRIEND PROMISE.’ That was probably the point Pink was closest to admitting his not crush thing, partially because he was a little mad about C only saying it when it wasn't an option anymore, lol. He was kind of vague about admitting anything himself in the end, though like less vague than he could have been...? Pretty locked down tho.
In general just likes and respects C quite a bit.
Recognizes C has some bad impulses, recognizes he works hard to take care of people while also keeping up a specific image, recognizes he cares deeply about a lot of people, avoids calling him out on it because if they're samehat then that's admitting he has people he cares deeply about also, which is bad and probably untrue anyway he doesn't know he can't read suddenly.
Intentionally tries to get C to chill out a lot. He tries not to make it obvious but does his best to project relaxing energy so C doesn't always feel like he needs to be keyed up while he's around. He would definitely allow C to just bum around his room if he wants.
I AM SURE THIS MIGHT CHANGE AFTER I GET BACK TO THE RECENT POST, but re C and Man Eater it's moooostly the same, aside from C becoming more and more aware that is he is pretty okay with Man Eater?? Like, he's always lowkey not hated him/even liked him a bit before now, despite the whole hitman thing, but even while brainwashed Man Eater's words still got to him?? He hates being able to relate to murderers and considers them scum, but at the same time, he feels like he could understand Man Eater more if he tried.
WHICH IS WHY HE TRIES TO RUIN IT AT EVERY CHANCE HE GETS doop doop. But overall, still cool with him, just manifests it thru banter ever time.
AS FOR ZRAEL ON THE WHOLE. GAWD.
C does, genuinely, hate murderers! But he knows Imeeji is a unique circumstance, and punishing murderers does squat except cause unnecessary stress and boring drama for his friends. Still, especially early on, it irritated him to no end to watch people like Little Red and Doodleman strut about but there being nothing they could do about it. Just accept it and adapt, which he did! STILL IN THE BACK OF HIS HEAD he's always been like "u fuckers."
It's also kind of funny because he KNOWS ITS IRRATIONAL, BUT BEFORE RECENT EVENTS, THE ONE ZRAEL HE'S HAD THE MOST IRRITATION WITH WAS ACTUALLY REQUIEM. THE SOFTEST MOST EMOTIONAL OF ZRAELS (except maybe Dia??). It's because he saw Mori's chopped up body during Hunger Games and it wasn't hard to process of elimination who did it lol. He's mostly gotten over it now and will even playfully banter with Requiem, since he ASSUMES she means well overall due to Hurricane and Nem liking her lots.
BUT NOW IT'S ALL GOD. He hates her, so much. SO MUCH. see my comment to marie for more but overall, she encompasses everything he hates about Zrael, very unfairly to the rest of them. She is currently the one person in Imeeji he would go out of his way to murder and keep dead if he could, and maaaaaybe if he had to sacrifice the rest of Zrael to do it WELP, A SMALL PRICE TO PAY FOR HIS SANITY.
THAT ALL SAID, aside from god, he has mostly mentally calmed down about Zrael and does recognize their overall usefulness and that they are, ultimately people. Even for the worst of them, they're stuck in the same situation of 'punching/killing someone might make me feel better but may cause more trouble for me overall' so he does get it, and it's why he's a little better at handling crazy stabbing types than say B might be (tho B is better at PR than him in general). He is also not blind to how much some members of Zrael mean to others, and would not want to jeopardize those relationships (Man Eater and Intensity and Maki, Req and Nem/Hurricane, Dia and Lucifer/Whisky, etc).
Hilariously he does not understand the seemingly rivalish relationship Zrael and Baritones may have?? He sees Baritones as lowkey skeeve but they don't do anything to Him Personally, so he doesn't give a shit and does not prod. They're just trying to get by too! That said if he had to choose one of the two to live, he'd have to think on it, but would ultimately choose Zrael--he feels more people would be upset if Zrael disappeared, and has no real attachment to baritones aside from thinking Yvette and Ruby are chill, but eeeeeh we can live without them.
OVERALL, JUST WISHES ZRAEL 'would not' SOMETIMES, but also recognizes they get as much shit as any other team, so generally is not fussed by their presence, and would reach out to them more if not for god. Still likes Dia the most, but he just checks out when talking to Dia cuz she manages to crit role him a lot wheeze.
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Date: 2019-12-25 12:29 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-12-25 02:12 am (UTC)But specifically for twinworld, he plans on going to school just to properly graduate and get that under his belt, but he absolutely is not going to be still. He'll try lots of clubs, probably put together another gang, and just by virtue of not being able to stay still, he'll use his Supreme Leader persona to make a public image for himself and generally try to stick his hands in so many pots.
BUT ALSO
HE IS SUPER super keen volunteering at an orphanage and at some point he will have an entire orphanage full of kids wearing his signature scarves!! Otherwise I was telling Ari he'd definitely duck in to help B and Gold at the onigiri shop whenever one of them needs a break/it gets busy, and would face time Silver every night if he's away on games and if he doesn't pick up he will SOMEHOW find away to the city and kick down the team's locker room to find him
Overall he plans on doing a lot of things, but it'll be a while before he can settle down and focus on just One thing since basically all he knows is showmanship aT this point.
REVERSE, WHAT DOES SILVER WANT OUT OF TWIN AND TINIES FUTURE?
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Date: 2019-12-25 02:53 am (UTC)He wants the tinies to be able to find things they enjoy doing whether it's club or volunteering or even just general mischief. He's worried about the smalls (B especially) feeling like they don't have a purpose in the twins world and while he'd selfishly be happy with them hanging with him and Gold 24/7, he knows there'll probably be some bees about "taking up too much of [their] time". Luckily Gold and Silver weren't lying about only really hanging with each other outside of volleyball so he is confident the tinies will see for themselves YOU ARE NOT STEALING OUR TIME, WE DON'T GIVE OUR TIME TO OTHER PEOPLE.
Order of business the third will eventually....once the tinies are settled in and bees are calmer.....taking them to meet Granny. The boys (Silver especially) are indeed huge grandma's boys.
Silver's plan always has and always will be to go pro at volleyball (even before the manga confirmed it recently). Ball is literally his life and the manga makes a huge point of this and a huge point of ball being way more LIFE to Atsumu than it is to Osamu. Whereas before he wouldn't be suuuuuper interested in getting a manager to handle things like brand deals or commercials or interviews or what not, he will definitely do some in the future to further support the boys though. His schedule is going to be super fucked considering training/away matches/fan events/commercial work/etc but HE WILL FIND A WAY!
Also I have no doubt he will live in eternal fear of Bokuto and C meeting. Because with their energy and ability to harrass Atsumu combined.... I have no doubt Bokuto and Hinata would like C.
Whenever he is home he'll whine about being made to help out (but will probably still help out at the onigiri shop just so he can have more time with twin and smalls). Maximize all his time with them!
I really doubt we'll ever get a flashback to the conversation that must have happened with Atsumu and Osamu when Osamu told Atsumu he wasn't going to pursue volleyball after highschool/college. But that must've been a hard one and it will inevitably BE a hard one. Thank goodness for boys being there to force them to make up faster.
So basically, in conclusion, he wants their home to become the twins home and he wants to find a way to balance a huge work load with making sure he has enough time for the boys.
What's up next on C's plan to become God? Who is next on his list to recruit? How is he going to feel about the tracker plan?
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Date: 2019-12-28 12:15 am (UTC)anyway RE THE TRACKER PLAN: he's honestly a-okay with it...like 90%. Paranoid stalker he is, he also wants to know where silver, B, and gold are at any given point. FOR HIMSELF HOWEVER...........there may be one or more times he attaches it to a furby and just sends it off in order for him to get some private stuff done. WE'LL SEE.
As for becoming god, HE IS STILL ON TRACK WITH IT. Current plans are to eventually talk to Intensity to bounce around some ideas of Starting Shit, and do some more general minion solidarity bonding. I was crazy busy ooc this season but I think I'll make a sleepover post for all his gang eventually, probably sometime in January. RECRUITMENT WISE, he has no hard goals, and just got himself another HSS!!! He does want to grab some more SensitIVs tho and get his tendrils more into Avante and Taisho. Ultimately his goal will be to have at least one or two people on every team. He's almost there!!
If Silver were not full of PR bees, what is something he'd pull in imeeji he'd otherwise try to keep a lid on?
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Date: 2019-12-31 01:47 am (UTC)Talk to me about C and trust. Who does he trust least? What are trust makers and breakers? How hard is it to earn and how easy is it to lose? Etc etc.
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Date: 2020-01-01 07:34 pm (UTC)C both trusts his friends/twins and tinies immensely and simultaneously trusts no one completely but himself! Like logically, he knows he can trust B, Silver, and Gold for more intimate stuff and they'd never betray him, and to the lesser extent, most of the people he's recruited for his gang are also on varying tiers of this level (people like Prim and Duality especially, who have literally died for him). So he knows he can trust them, and WILL trust in them in the end.
IF.................he can manipulate the situation.
Even with as much as he likes them all, he's a control freak, and the reason he thinks he *can* trust people is the faith in himself to tip things in his favor. Even with Silver, both consciously and subconsciously he does things to try and maintain a certain level of trust, even when he does bullshit. He also knows B and the twins on set on 'making him happy' so he doesn't actually trust them to not meddle in his plans, but will play along enough to satisfy them. They're his absolute closest CR but he still has this teeny tiny door closed off in a closet of vulnerability. He also thinks he's mentally prepared to handle it if Silver finds someone better, and even told B he'd be happy if Silver ever decided to move on. CONCEAL DON'T FEEEEEEL
He also lowkeys expects to be betrayed by someone like.........all the time, so it's very, VERY hard for him to hold a grudge due to Game decisions, and he still rather someone hit him/AlcheMe rather than dealing with other drama.
So despite how far he's come, he still has the mentality of "Ultimately it'll come down to me" which is why he's still on his Godhood train, wanting to ensure everything goes he is way no matter what.
For the Top People he'd trust, it's B, Silver, Gold, Duality, Intensity, and then juuust below them probably like Prim, Hurricane, maybe Mars. They're lower because they have so many connections around that he generally expects to be thrown under the bus. But a REAL betrayal from any of these people would send hims spiraling reeeeal bad.
FOR TRUSTING THE LEAST basically any murderer, a bunch of the rowdy people he considers not malicious but stupid to the point of being a danger, Maki for a variety of too many reasons, FUKKIN GOD the list goes on
Top three teams Silver would go to if he did Transfer?
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Date: 2019-12-25 12:42 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-12-25 02:43 am (UTC)SO MUCH
Despite how C acts, one thing C hates more than anything is illogical nonsense. And she is that! She makes no sense, but her actions to hurt him are PINPOINT DELIBERATE and it drives him wild. Why is this idiot gaining momentum! HOW IS THIS DELUSIONAL DANGER ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO EXIST. Spoilers and such but with the exception of one person, the people C tries to get killed in canon are all people he dubs as unnecessary or dangers to the overall group. AND SHE VERY MUCH FITS THIS MOLD
He is fine playing along with her, and in fact started doing so in hopes that he could win her over and ease her off of her crazy toward his important people BUT THAT BACKFIRED SPECTACULARLY and now he's just doing it out of pure spite!! He knows the best thing to do would be just to ignore her but that also means she wins so no??? That said, sometimes he is just Done and will about face and wander off instead of bantering so he can get his thoughts straight. It has not occurred to him that this is probably the best course of action all the time. No, must fight fire with fire.
Overall tho she is one of the few people he would actually set out to kill permanently if he could but knows that wouldn't be Best overall so he's going to settle for biding his time, becoming god, and then banishing her to hell where she can chase after Azzy's ass like a cartoon skunk. THAT SAID in the meantime he is still fine putting up a front and is actually a okay working along side her, just while screaming deeply, silently, inside his gut.
REVERSE
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Date: 2019-12-25 09:51 pm (UTC)...that said, even if Azzy hadn't given her the directive she would still come to hate C because SCREW THIS GUY WHO THINKS HE CAN TRY TO BECOME GOD WHEN I AM GOD AND RIGHT! HERE! Not to mention she's got corruptions maxing out her desperation and deriving her a sense of morality, so yeah, this woulda happened no matter what. After all, C is threatening her ideal reality! With her memories came the realization that she might NOT be god, but she is still riding her delusions out because it's the life she really wants. AND C IS RUINING IT!
So it crossed from "this is my assignment" to "I'm taking this personally he is in the way of my happiness"
Her ~dream~, her fantasy, is seeing C on his knees, begging for her to leave him and his friends alone; she makes a broadcast where he announces the disbandment of his organization... then allows himself to be executed on camera.
But, weird, people are starting to be MEAN to her, what's up with that?? Why don't they SEE that this C is a disappointment, a scam, a FAKE? Instead they are dismissing HER and treating her UNKINDLY? Must be C's fault. He must have spread propaganda, he must have already tainted their minds. He's ruining her dreams, she should have never left, she should have never let him get this far, etc, etc...
tho like I said in plurk, pre-corruption/amnesiac God could have come to like C and taken on the "goddy" title like a weird badge of pride while jokingly saying she'd let him "inherit" the title of God after she went back to her home world, and that is still really funny to think about.
TELL ME ABOUT KHARG > SILENCE, or C > SILENCE, or whichever I'll just ask about the other next.
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Date: 2019-12-28 12:45 am (UTC)GAWD DROPPING KHARG WAS HARD CUZ I REALLY LIKED SILENCE AND KHARG. Kharg is half deimos/demons, but in his world deimos are literally monster people that evolved from feral monsters. Deimos are still like, super crazy fight happy and would eat people, but they also have their own civilizations! His mom ran off with a ~handsome dragon king~ and then they were both hunted down by the other deimos. Long story short they were separated, and his (fraternal) twin brother was raised by his dad, and Kharg stayed with his mom and grew up as human royalty!! But despite looking the most human he has the more aggressive instincts and also that one time he tried to genocide a city handwave handwave
ANYWAY, he really respects/respected silence? Despite being deadset on his mission, Kharg takes units/teams very seriously! He had one after all! And no matter what he didn't want to cause too much trouble for FiN. Meanwhile here's Silence that has like, 3 people in her?? He vaguely reminded her of his brother's teammate (a literal living doll named Bebedora) but IT'S SILENCE, SHE'S GOOD, NOT A HARBINGER OF THE ABYSS. hahhhahaa--
Anyway, he really appreciates her giving him a chance and ALSO felt like he could get along fine with Song and Symphony too? Sometimes, your teammate has multi personalities, its fine!! He really wanted to help her and not disappoint her.
THEN SHE INSISTS SHE'S NOT HUMAN. And it's a huge blow to his own facade, as deep down, he kind of knew, and was okay with it, but thought she was the same as him in thinking 'it's okay to just pretend we aren't.' But she isn't pretending and that's hard and it hurts. The thing with Kharg is, despite all his bluster, he'll try to kill someone like, once, and then decide they're besties. A deimos tries to push him over a cliff and he rolls out the way and is like "well if you REALLY wanted to kill me, you would have succeeded." "no i was really trying to kill you??" "Mmm no i decided okay lets go"
SO LIKE. HE DOESN'T ACTUALLY HATE *ALL* OF THEM. He just feels like he's Supposed to. So having his unitmates call him out on it is like oh no, but my reasoning!! If he comes back he'll be far more chill just, still with dragon brain telling him to stab, but stab more politely and with less racism maybe.
C MEANWHILE STILL NEEDS TO TOUCH BASE WITH HER, I SUCK. HE ALSO NEEDS TO STOP LYING. But he does genuinely appreciate her unwavering support, but that same support really puts him in Supreme Leader mode, and he feels like he needs to be infallible and strong in front of people like her. I can't remember if he's straight up said he's dead (I THINK HE DID? I need to go reread the ballpit) but he feels like he needs to get a hold on showing that vulnerability to so many people. But on the flip side, he does also want to support her too, and that's hard when you're a Lying Mcliar face. Overall tho he adores Silence, A+ minion needs to stop lying to her cuz she's crazy gullible.
REVERSE ME
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Date: 2019-12-25 02:25 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-12-25 04:16 am (UTC)That said, he wakes up, makes an elaborate breakfast for everyone, but has like, dumbass pranks in some (like an egg with a fake tiny frog in it or jam made from wasabi or some shit) but it's really tasty and he laughs when people bite in and get a surprise!!
Then he goes to harass all his subordinates one by one, hanging out with them and doing something with each of them, whether it's lettin ghtem do his hair, outfit swapping, playing around, or just talking.
THEN he naps. Probably alone somewhere, with his hammock set up in a nice shady area. Recharge time!
BACK TO HARASSING PEOPLE. Maybe puts on a Live or goes to do a particularly long hang out with closer friends like Alcheme or HSS. Then he disappears for a few hours for Personal Stuff--studying up on lore in the library or crafting theories or plans in his room for a minute. If this is twin good end au maybe this point he'd go study for a bit or brush up on an act for his public image.
Then dinner time!! He'd go eat with everyone else, still joking around, trying to make things fun.
Nighttime would be winding down with B or Gold and Silver, wouldn't say no to staying over with any of them or group sleepover.
He's a not-so-simple boy with simple needs. As long as it's a it's not boring and his friends aren't hurt, he's having a good time.
REVERSE
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Date: 2019-12-31 02:20 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-01-01 07:44 pm (UTC)THIS WAS HARD BECAUSE C LOVES EVERY ALCHEME POWER aside from megido. They fit his type SO WELL and he's very versatile with them, so most of them he wouldn't trade for anything. It took him a while to warm to to Foresight since he initially saw it as a Cheat and he hates cheating!!! BUT he's come around to it since he's realized he can just, reverse a fucking death if he needs to. IT'S NOT CHEATING IF A LEGITIMATE MOVE, I GUESS.
But if he had to pick 6 other powers, he'd pick:
-Wild City's Frog Materia
-Echo from Taisho for voice mimicry
-Alternatively animal power from WC and just rip a magpie's ability for voice mimicry
-FiN's Gadgeteer
-Sensitiv's Feel so Numb/never feel pain
-Who killed cock robin/disguise ability
These are all abilities that either aid him defensively or will keep people away, and that's how his mind works strategy wise. EVEN FIN, HE WOULD NOT HESITATE TO MELD SOMEONE'S SHOES TO THE GROUND and then run away.
I did not consider any of the Guest Units but I don't remember them but most don't really suit him anyway.
SAME QUESTION FOR TALON
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Date: 2019-12-31 02:23 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-01-01 08:20 pm (UTC)Summary version is he's not QUITE as upset and resentful toward her as he was like, directly after their last talk since he's convinced himself it really Isn't Worth It and at least she's attempting to be considerate so!! He's perfectly fine being civil at her and even helping her out if need be but in general doesn't have much investment in her right now, especially since he's hyper focused on BECOME GOD, DESTROY GOD right now.
LONGER VERSION
It is bizarre where C is right now because he actually liked Maki a whole lot during their first few months, to the point he was a little jealous of her being with A/Joker. Why be their friend when I'm clearly the superior friend??? WOW!!! He in general still did not mind hanging with her or attempting to give her (sometimes awful) advice tho, and while he did think she's a little dumb, like, he thinks many people are dumb so in general he was overall content?
But one thing Maki never managed to notice is he very tightlipped with his personal life and likes to control what is or isn't broadcasted to the population, and over time it really started to weigh on C, especially as darker and heavier topics begin to be exposed. GRANTED, HE COULD HAVE LIKE, TOLD HER THIS LIKE A NORMAL PERSON but are dangans normal or easy? of course not. There's also the point of him trying really hard to maintain a persona of power in Imeeji and he does lean in to his asshole acting, and he didn't want people pitying him just because he's trapped in a murder game. Broadcasted memories made this hard!!
THINGS REACHED THEIR PEAK i thiiink it was the case 5 memory where C just goes YEP, TOTALLY ME, YOU FOOL, I AM THE ONE WHO DID IT. Because he's gotta protect his rep!! But despite having no fucking idea what was happening, he went along with it mostly out of spite, since that was the tipping point of Maki exposing his business in public. He did talk to X a bit more rationally later, but he was too upset to really pursue anything further.
I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS THAT SAME MEMORY OR ANOTHER MAKI SHOWED LIKE, RIGHT BEFORE BALLOON POPPING GAME. But whatever it was I remember C was also exasperated about that to the point of not helping B herd cats and just literally laying on his face as X tried to talk about canon stuff until they all fell to their deaths. IT'S JUST, A HILARIOUS CLUSTERFUCK IN HINDSIGHT. He was so done!!
ANYWAY i'm sure smaller things happened that i can't remember at the moment, including Maki talking to him again later also more rationally and then calling him out on his bullshit. WAIT I DO REMEMBER THAT, it also pissed C off because he's a fucking cat, and at that point rather Maki dislike him rather than think she can get under his skin (which she could). It also threw him off a bit because she had said she considered him one of the few people close/understanding of her situation since they're from the same place and have been here since the beginning. So after that point he just, sucked it up, and while still very flippant and teasing, he decided to just let things drop a bit and feel around how things would go with Maki because maybe they could work this out.
BUT THEN LIAR HELL HAPPENED and Maki killed herself which pissed C off to varying degrees. Partly because it sent B to a panic (as he was blaming himself) and partly because he was worried her interference could meddle with whatever Intensity and co were doing, and tried his best to advise against it. He'd made peace with her doing it and even asked Pink to look out for her if he could, but it cemented in his mind that Maki is too Unpredictable and will always act on her emotions first, even if she comes back later to talk settled down. That's proooobably the wedge that stopped C from trying to get too close from now on, and he decided she couldn't be trusted completely.
AND THEN AT SOME POINT after, C remembered his own death and then took more memories and remembered the entire scenario that went down in the hanger, and his entire plan for case 5. He suspected he was dead, and B had too (B pointed out ICly that he thought the robot in maki's memory sounded Off and unlike C, which is hilarious ooc because I hadn't told Ari about any of Kaito's old fashioned mannerisms, B just managed to pick them up), but overall it was a Lot to take in, as well as confirming some suspicions from earlier memories that the entire game was set up and rigged.
but oops doesn't matter cuz he's fucking mcdead.
Anyway lots of feelings were had, but fast forward to Maki's case 6 memory and he just could not muster the energy to care that she was so upset, especially since she didn't even acknowledge his death. This is also why he was more forthcoming with information; he's dead, whatever, throw her a bone so she stops bothering me! (even though he still didn't tell her a Lot) eta OH I ALSO REMEMBER HE WAS ANNOYED SHE TOLD SILENCE ABOUT IT like /stares into space stop telling my business!!
But her olive branch of taking her memories privately did suprise him, even if he thinks its A LITTLE TOO LATE. But he acknowledges regardless and Maki's moved firmly to "well meaning but stupid." He's decided to keep just being his persona around her, including the teasing even though it pisses her off. He wants to keep that distance between them and so far that's doing the trick!!
THAT MIGHT CHANGE WHO KNOWS but yeah he's back to being civil and chatting with her but otherwise any deeper investment in her has been stomped out at the moment. He'll watch memories if asked, but mostly out of curiosity to see if his theory was correct.
REVERSE ME
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Date: 2020-01-01 09:51 pm (UTC)ALL THAT WOULD STILL BE WORKABLE since Maki obviously doesn't mind if her friends are spiteful/morally skewed/stupid/reckless, but the part she has the most trouble dealing with is that C appears... to get away with all of this. People who are important to Maki who have been upset with her to the point of cutting off friendships tolerate what she perceives as just as bad or worse actions from C with no consequences. And C himself appears (to her) to have no incentive to do any better. AND SHE HAS A LOT OF TROUBLE DEALING WITH THAT. Which means when C needles on that point (like pointing out that X had been on his side, or that King was his now, etc.) she gets perhaps disproportionally upset.
There are three events that contributed most to this:
1) The Trial 5 memory + C's reaction. In that memory, Maki is convinced that she accidentally killed X, is more agonized and heartbroken about it than anything else she had experienced before, and is so determined that C is responsible for everything and he needs to die that she's willing to lie at the trial and kill him at the cost of everyone else's lives as well. In addition to just... the aftermath of all those emotions, Maki was also reeling from the fact that she thought nothing else mattered so much that everyone should just die. All other character flaws aside, Maki is very determined, so the fact that she'd ever give up that way was a shock to her (and the memory didn't provide the context to why - the part where they thought they were the only people left alive in the universe). SO THAT'S THE EMOTIONAL STATE SHE WAS IN RIGHT AFTER TAKING IT. She was not in any state to rationally interrogate anything, so the fact that C immediately came up to her like "HAHA YOU FINALLY LEARNED THE TRUTH, YES, I AM THE MASTERMIND" triggered her instinctive "pull a knife on him" reaction.
So the fact X (at the time) and B (later on) reacted to this by being like "can you give C a break" really upset her, because it felt like... okay I guess my feelings here don't matter? It was a jerk move for him to gloat at me about having masterminded our killing game right after I took an extremely traumatic memory, but I guess I need to have sympathy for his weird liar complex more than he needs to have sympathy for me thinking he was responsible for me killing the man I loved and a lot of other deaths? Cool. Great. Good to know your priorities.
2) Liar Hell Lilith expedition. Maki thinks C judging her for that is extremely hypocritical, starting from the fact that... C himself was the very first person to suicide and go to Lilith, before they even knew what that meant. His team berserked and he was missing for a while while everyone had no idea where he was and he came back with his head stapled on. She does not feel like he has the high ground here.
She also (and this isn't limited to C, she has said it to others too) did not see any reason to believe that Intensity & co were on a mission that was any better thought out than hers - no one actually knew where they were or what they were doing - so she found "you'll just mess up their plans" to be deeply condescending. And after having learned what they were doing, she does not in fact think that "the angel is being held in Azzy's manor so let's storm Pythia's apartment... in case there's information there? without telling anyone what we are doing, and while half our party can't even remember what we're doing" is a less dumb plan than her killing herself to go to Lilith and retrieve them. So she doesn't really understand why all the people on the mission / people who have done other stupid things get passes while her reaction was somehow reckless and unreasonable.
3) Her live vs C's live. She was already kind of pissed off that claiming to be the mastermind of a killing game was apparently harmless pranks while her vague threat live was the most horrible thing half of Imeeji has ever seen, but now that C literally did a live to try to hire a hitman to kill her unitmate, Maki is just kind of... Throws arms in the air! Apparently he can just do whatever he wants!!! Even assuming his live wasn't being serious (she didn't actually see it so she doesn't have a good barometer of the seriousness of it)... that doesn't really matter since some people are going to react to it like it is, and there will be a community reaction and other people might do things like it, and all the same arguments people made to her about her live being bad even if she wasn't going to kill anyone. BUT APPARENTLY NO ONE CARES IF IT'S C. Great!! She loves it.
As far as memories go, it really was in their olive branch thread that Maki first realized C actually like... cared about memories and in fact was genuinely upset about her showing them publicly. Most previous conversations they've had had been more like "Why are you doing this, memories are stupid" "They're not stupid, in fact I'd like to talk to you about them sometime...?" "Haha no." So she assumed C just... thought they were stupid, and "C thinks this is stupid" is not a good reason for her to stop doing things. Hence the offer to stop / take them with him when she realized it was a real thing for him! Which also had somewhat to do with the fact that he's dead and that's rough, which she did try to acknowledge, but since he brushed it off she dropped it pretty quick.
The fact that she'd apparently been upsetting him by showing her memories this whole time without her noticing is also why she's not... as mad at him as she could be for not telling her he remembered what happened re: the chapter 5 murder. Though she's still a bit mad. See above, deeply traumatic, spent a couple months upset and confused and sure she'd killed the man she loved and also everyone, she would really have appreciated knowing that was not the case a bit sooner.
On that topic, Sabre is asking her why she's trying to be considerate of his feelings if he's not considerate of hers, and she is a bit like "you know, that's a good question." She's still not going to sway on the decision to not take memories publicly since that isn't actually a big deal for her and is making up for some past hurts, but she does kinda wonder if it will make any difference in their relationship since C seems pretty determined to be antagonistic to her at every opportunity.
What does C currently think is going on with their memories?
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Date: 2020-01-04 07:36 pm (UTC)HE HAS, NO IDEA ABOUT THE SCOPE OF IT THOUGH and is already verging on the edge of an existential crisis, but Silver's been helpful distracting him from it and he's just /SHOVE THAT RIGHT DOWN IN THE TRASH FOR NOW.
He knows it doesn't matter now because he's super dead, and anything pass that point would just be to sate his curiosity. Knowing that his plan failed and X died is a bit of a bummer for him though, and he's just creating a never ending checklist of people to fish out of hell later.
HOW'S MAKI DOING NOW THAT SHE'S CHANGED HER NAME
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Date: 2019-12-31 02:39 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-01-04 06:46 pm (UTC)KAGUYA - C WANTS TO GET TO KNOW KAGUYA BETTER as he has been slowburn working on getting Taisho on his side!!! Fox is part of his organization, and he likes Shu fine and he's slowly becoming more curious about Kaguya. Even while he was magic brainwashed he noticed she was surprisingly insightful and really just wants to talk to her more over all! Regards her as a generally sweet girl but not naive and seemingly proactive. Definitely will be jumping more.
REVERSE ME
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Date: 2020-01-05 11:23 pm (UTC)While he will forever put his master and Wednesday first and foremost, it's not like he's against being team C and he supports him.
YUUKI - She likes him! She thinks there is more to him than meets the eye and that while he has this silly trickster persona it's kind of... a front to a certain extent. While he might be a natural gremlin she does believe he sort of hides behind that to protect or hide either his feelings or motivations to an extent. When he asked about the Kohime incident she was protective of her unit because of the already complicated relationship between those units and a bit wary. Putting that aside she doesn't think he means anything bad toward the unit though. And she'll support his God ambitions! She thinks that is harmless and also it spites God which makes that even better because she'd like to bury her. He is a good kid and she worries a little that he may... get himself in way over his head-- which she thinks may already be evident with what happened to Eclipse. But she would like to help support him and would like to help keep him safe...r from God.
What are C's most immediate future plans?
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Date: 2019-12-31 02:39 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-01-04 06:55 pm (UTC)But overall her sassiness and petty snipes are really refreshing to him, and he likes having someone on the team who he can tease and will be teased back without hurting their feelings. B is his number one always, but he knows B does have some triggers and he can't really go all out with him sometimes. But with Q he will be merciless and expects to be stomped on in return. FRIENDSHIP.
She also gets bonus points for being cozy with the twins, and totally accepts her as their play-sister. He has not prodded much about her feelings about Pink, moreso out of respect for Pink rather than Q, but he's becoming increasingly curious because it's obviously Complicated, but do they want to kiss??? Possibly with Cammelia?? Let C help ur love life Q.
He's not quite at the point where he'd confide in her with Deeper Shit but tbh I could see it happening in the future.
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Date: 2019-12-31 03:08 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-01-04 07:02 pm (UTC)-LOEV PINK
-PROBABLY ONE OF HIS MOST FAVORITE CASUAL BUDDIES?? I can totally see C just banging on Peps door so he can chill in Pink's room and talk about bullshit
-They are very Same Hat but C recognizes Pink is probably even MORE locked down than he is, and honestly he kinda respects it
-He also respects Pink for not taking shit from him, which boosts his trust factor, and why he usually will say yes to any favors for Pink without hesitation
-He is mostly LoL about Pink's relationship with Q and watches from the sidelines as they kind of Wile E. Coyote each other.
-He did not say it outright, but if not for his love of Silver, he'd absolutely be friends with benefits with Pink if he wanted it. DUDE IS CUTE
-Like mentioned above about him being locked down, he does want to get closer to pink and needle at him more, but he both likes and relates to him too much to go in swinging with a pick axe like he'd do with most people, BUT ONE DAY, HE MIGHT JUST KICK DOWN A DOOR AND TRY
tldr he loev Pink, fist bump casual buddy
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Date: 2020-01-11 06:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-01-01 04:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-01-04 07:29 pm (UTC)WHICH IS WHY HE TRIES TO RUIN IT AT EVERY CHANCE HE GETS doop doop. But overall, still cool with him, just manifests it thru banter ever time.
AS FOR ZRAEL ON THE WHOLE. GAWD.
C does, genuinely, hate murderers! But he knows Imeeji is a unique circumstance, and punishing murderers does squat except cause unnecessary stress and boring drama for his friends. Still, especially early on, it irritated him to no end to watch people like Little Red and Doodleman strut about but there being nothing they could do about it. Just accept it and adapt, which he did! STILL IN THE BACK OF HIS HEAD he's always been like "u fuckers."
It's also kind of funny because he KNOWS ITS IRRATIONAL, BUT BEFORE RECENT EVENTS, THE ONE ZRAEL HE'S HAD THE MOST IRRITATION WITH WAS ACTUALLY REQUIEM. THE SOFTEST MOST EMOTIONAL OF ZRAELS (except maybe Dia??). It's because he saw Mori's chopped up body during Hunger Games and it wasn't hard to process of elimination who did it lol. He's mostly gotten over it now and will even playfully banter with Requiem, since he ASSUMES she means well overall due to Hurricane and Nem liking her lots.
BUT NOW IT'S ALL GOD. He hates her, so much. SO MUCH. see my comment to marie for more but overall, she encompasses everything he hates about Zrael, very unfairly to the rest of them. She is currently the one person in Imeeji he would go out of his way to murder and keep dead if he could, and maaaaaybe if he had to sacrifice the rest of Zrael to do it WELP, A SMALL PRICE TO PAY FOR HIS SANITY.
THAT ALL SAID, aside from god, he has mostly mentally calmed down about Zrael and does recognize their overall usefulness and that they are, ultimately people. Even for the worst of them, they're stuck in the same situation of 'punching/killing someone might make me feel better but may cause more trouble for me overall' so he does get it, and it's why he's a little better at handling crazy stabbing types than say B might be (tho B is better at PR than him in general). He is also not blind to how much some members of Zrael mean to others, and would not want to jeopardize those relationships (Man Eater and Intensity and Maki, Req and Nem/Hurricane, Dia and Lucifer/Whisky, etc).
Hilariously he does not understand the seemingly rivalish relationship Zrael and Baritones may have?? He sees Baritones as lowkey skeeve but they don't do anything to Him Personally, so he doesn't give a shit and does not prod. They're just trying to get by too! That said if he had to choose one of the two to live, he'd have to think on it, but would ultimately choose Zrael--he feels more people would be upset if Zrael disappeared, and has no real attachment to baritones aside from thinking Yvette and Ruby are chill, but eeeeeh we can live without them.
OVERALL, JUST WISHES ZRAEL 'would not' SOMETIMES, but also recognizes they get as much shit as any other team, so generally is not fussed by their presence, and would reach out to them more if not for god. Still likes Dia the most, but he just checks out when talking to Dia cuz she manages to crit role him a lot wheeze.